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Grumpy old man
I had a workmate that bluffed an intruder out of his house with an empty shotgun. I told him that was a stupid thing to do in case the intruder called his bluff.

My Ex was moaning about not feeling safe was I was working nights at the mill. I told her to keep the bedroom door locked and to call 911 if she thought there was an intruder in the house. She did not think that good enough. I then took my 45-auto pistol from the lockup, loaded it with full mag and one round in the chamber with the safety on and put it by the bedside table. I told her should anyone break into the room aim the pistol at the door and shoot till the mag was empty. She demured, the pistol went back into the lockup unloaded and she had to accept that calling 911 would have to do.

In both cases a gun is not the answer.

Bob
 

Vacumatic

Testy
Yeah, seem to recall before he shot the one he did he was constantly having break ins and people on his property so was driven to it.
If I recall, his actions were thought to be disproportionate to the crime. I think they changed the law after that case, you have to show that your life or someone around is at risk and you have to state that you are armed and that you intended to fire a loaded weapon unless they desisted in their crime.

If it was me I would have lost it way before that point and just have shouted 'Cop this sunshine, boof boof.'
 

Northam Saint

Forum GOD!
If I recall, his actions were thought to be disproportionate to the crime. I think they changed the law after that case, you have to show that your life or someone around is at risk and you have to state that you are armed and that you intended to fire a loaded weapon unless they desisted in their crime.

If it was me I would have lost it way before that point and just have shouted 'Cop this sunshine, boof boof.'
We leave the security to Ted and Fred our Springer Spaniels. They bark, but biting wise they are useless, probably roll over for a belly rub or take them to where the dog biscuits are kept.
 

Twelvefret

Forum GOD!
Blink brand cameras and Geeni smart appliances are an inexpensive option for home security. You can schedule the smart bulbs on plugs. I've had the cameras since 2018 and changed the batteries one time. A relative gave me a couple motion sensor light that I have also installed. They use battery power.

I also found some decal no soliciting and no trespassing signs for the front and back entries. Harbor Freight has a sign that reads, "smile, you are on camera. These are subtle reminders. When I was in the sticks and someone came down my 1/3 mile drive way uninvited, I asked them why they had passed the three no trespassing signs?

I gave away the Henry Golden Boy 22 mag, the Desert Eagle, the 454 Tarus Casul Raging Bull to relatives. I kept the Stevens single action 410 that my great uncle and grandfather gave me as a 10 year old. A cousin gave me a 12 gauge he had kept in the barn. I took it home and cleaned the surface dirt and rust and oiled. It is a Mossberg with a three shell clip and bolt action.
 

Northam Saint

Forum GOD!
Blink brand cameras and Geeni smart appliances are an inexpensive option for home security. You can schedule the smart bulbs on plugs. I've had the cameras since 2018 and changed the batteries one time. A relative gave me a couple motion sensor light that I have also installed. They use battery power.

I also found some decal no soliciting and no trespassing signs for the front and back entries. Harbor Freight has a sign that reads, "smile, you are on camera. These are subtle reminders. When I was in the sticks and someone came down my 1/3 mile drive way uninvited, I asked them why they had passed the three no trespassing signs?

I gave away the Henry Golden Boy 22 mag, the Desert Eagle, the 454 Tarus Casul Raging Bull to relatives. I kept the Stevens single action 410 that my great uncle and grandfather gave me as a 10 year old. A cousin gave me a 12 gauge he had kept in the barn. I took it home and cleaned the surface dirt and rust and oiled. It is a Mossberg with a three shell clip and bolt action.
We just have a Ring doorbell, suits our needs. We also have a no solicitation, religion tc sticker, but they ignore that !
 

Chris

Forum DOG!
Staff member
May I ask, why do you need a shotgun?
Are you Duck seasoning hunting?
Casual clay shooting and pest control, I live on a farm.

If you like prison food. We don’t have any sort of right to kill anyone for any reason. A farmer a few years ago found that out, it was quite a high level one in the court and press.
If it’s the one I’m thinking of he didn’t have a licence for the gun and the guy he killed he shot in the back as he was trying to run away. The bar for “reasonable force” is actually set pretty high, the legal problem in this case is that if someone’s running away they’re no longer a threat. Plus the standard sentence for possession of an unlicensed firearm is five years.
 

TobyC

Patriot
Fortunately this isn’t a big problem around here. Not to say you never hear of it in the news reports, but really, hardly ever. I’m inclined to agree with @Vacumatic, if it’s a genuine concern, maybe buy a new steel door and door frame. I’m not saying people shouldn’t have guns, but perhaps it would be prudent to make additional efforts to fortify access to one’s home?
So, live in a fortress or simply protect my family, 12 gauge is more in my price range.
 

TobyC

Patriot
If you like prison food. We don’t have any sort of right to kill anyone for any reason. A farmer a few years ago found that out, it was quite a high level one in the court and press.

South Carolina’s Castle Doctrine is codified in the Protection of Persons and Property Act, primarily found in South Carolina Code 16-11-410 through 16-11-450. This legislation establishes the legal foundation for justifiable use of force, including deadly force, in self-defense situations. The law presumes that a person who uses force against an intruder is acting lawfully if specific conditions are met.

The statute states that individuals have the right to stand their ground without legal repercussions when lawfully present in a location and facing an unlawful intrusion or attack. Unlike traditional self-defense laws that may require proving no reasonable means of escape, South Carolina removes that obligation in certain circumstances. This aligns with broader “Stand Your Ground” principles, reinforcing the right to meet force with force when necessary.



South Carolina law provides significant legal protections for those who use force in self-defense under the Castle Doctrine, shielding them from criminal prosecution and civil liability when statutory requirements are met. South Carolina Code 16-11-450(A) states that a person lawfully using force is “justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action.”
 
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