Ain't that the truthInteresting. This thread went from virus to ties. Reminds me of what my son once said. You go on the internet to find out about say, house paint and after 3 hours find yourself in the wonderful world of cheese.

Sometimes I backtrack to find out how the heck I got somewhere, gotta watch out for clickbait.At least your son can remember what he started with, I only remember the starting point a few days later.![]()
No idea how that works, but I do know of cases in China (and India) where manufacturers hire consultants to advise on ISO certification process, not to actually ensure full adherence but to know how to game the system to just get the certification them go back to business as usual. So just because the lab is certified does not mean people follow the associated processes to make it real. Hard to combat against laziness and complacency.Maybe I should have said stuff doesn’t escape. Someone smuggling it out isn’t quite the same but point taken.
Was this pointed at me? The chinese gov is pure evil, the C19 absolutely did get out of the Wuhan lab, possibly not by accident. Yes they want to promote their vaccine, and all manner of medical stuff that they make and sell.The CCP is promoting a 'rap video' where young minds full of mush are dancing and the singer is singing the lyrics: Get the Chinese jab, it's the best in the world. The whole world yearns for the Chinese vaccine. Presidents and Prime Ministers all over the world are getting it.' The Chinese vaccine is the worst in the world, with only a 50% efficacy. That means it's only half as good as the Pfizer jab, @TobyC.
Your love of Chinese rap is well known. Don't let the catchy beat sway you. Stand firm.Was this pointed at me? The chinese gov is pure evil, the C19 absolutely did get out of the Wuhan lab, possibly not by accident. Yes they want to promote their vaccine, and all manner of medical stuff that they make and sell.
The problem facing the UK and the US is that nearly all of the ingredients we use to manufacture antibiotics come from China. We've given up our ability to 'stand firm' for corporate profits, cheap labour, and treating China as though it isn't our greatest enemy. Russia is a weak sister with an economy the size of Texas, or Italy. I wasn't pointing anything at you Toby.Was this pointed at me? The chinese gov is pure evil, the C19 absolutely did get out of the Wuhan lab, possibly not by accident. Yes they want to promote their vaccine, and all manner of medical stuff that they make and sell.
China has become fat, wealthy, and way too powerful in too many ways, and they control or heavily influence MSM and social media. The US is in Xi's pocket at the moment, unfortunately.The problem facing the UK and the US is that nearly all of the ingredients we use to manufacture antibiotics come from China. We've given up our ability to 'stand firm' for corporate profits, cheap labour, and treating China as though it isn't our greatest enemy. Russia is a weak sister with an economy the size of Texas, or Italy. I wasn't pointing anything at you Toby.
Antibiotics?The problem facing the UK and the US is that nearly all of the ingredients we use to manufacture antibiotics come from China. We've given up our ability to 'stand firm' for corporate profits, cheap labour, and treating China as though it isn't our greatest enemy. Russia is a weak sister with an economy the size of Texas, or Italy. I wasn't pointing anything at you Toby.
Yes China is now a top ranking world power. To be fair, they took Capitalism and beat us at our own game with it. If you want to see who is to blame we just have to look in the mirror. How to deal with it is another can of worms.China has become fat, wealthy, and way too powerful in too many ways, and they control or heavily influence MSM and social media. The US is in Xi's pocket at the moment, unfortunately.
Many of the ingredients for many medications come solely or mostly from china. Cheaper for us to buy from them than make ourselves, but we have become overly reliant on them.Antibiotics?
That is rather random.
Many of the ingredients for many medications come solely or mostly from china. Cheaper for us to buy from them than make ourselves, but we have become overly reliant on them.
It’s a rather random comment.Many of the ingredients for many medications come solely or mostly from china. Cheaper for us to buy from them than make ourselves, but we have become overly reliant on them.