Zero hours contract advice ?

[LeeBot]

No not refused any neither has anyone else, all too scared to as apparently she wouldn't like it.

There you have it. Walk away - Sounds like she uses the threat of unfairly withholding hours to pressure workers into complying with the companies needs. Immoral, illegal and bullying. The tell tale signs of an incompetent and/or unscrupulous manager. Often the type who will come up with complete bullshit in situations such as yours!

 

[Godfather]

Cheers I've no trouble with that but I'll have to do it in the morning.

Cool, one important word of advice, don't stress over it. I don't mean that flippantly all will be ok.

 

[Northam Saint]

This isn't an example of how things work.

The boss recent purchased a second property a couple of miles away from the first. Residents moved in from the first property. We then get out rotas which usually come the Thursday before the week you are working. On it hours in one house and hours in another. And your half hour unpaid break slap bang in the middle so you can use your lunch break to travel there. Why, because others in the past have refused their break and gone home half an hour early. Now I don't take a car to work so I have to get a bus, the bus times don't work out so I'd be late and have to make up the shortfall and go with out a proper break. No one but me complains so I get a shorter working day at the other location only. Now she is giving the others 40 minute break 30 for lunch and 10 to travel with ll paying their transport. When questioned about transport the answer I got is because most live near to the second location it's on your way home.

Better off out !!!!!

 

[Nishy]

Claim 0 hours pack up and leave as @dadant mentions. You are well within your rights contractually speaking. Minus any unorthodox clause which you would most likely be able to contest.

 

[SensitiveGuy]

Guys, there's a lot of mythology around zero hours contracts. And they are normally squewed in the employers favour.
The 'franchise' but is worrisome.
If it's an American franchise, [the manager may imply] the contract may not be written / be governed by English law, [this is not the case for sites based in England]
If @Godfather is offering to look at your contract for you @Northam Saint and knows what he's talking about, go for it.
Best of luck with it all

Edited to avoid any confusion if others are reading this thread at a later date.

 

[Northam Saint]

All sorted !!, she just rang and has backed down and I leave Monday.

 

[flip-68]

good for you

 

[Nishy]

All sorted !!, she just rang and has backed down and I leave Monday.

Victory shave!

 

[Northam Saint]

Victory shave!

Break out the MdC.

She seemed a lot calmer and was cheery and said she didn't want me to leave on a bad note. Think it was a bit of initial anger as she didn't want me to go. I've achieved quite a bit in my short time there, I've had people how have done nothing in years doing simple thing she no one else ever managed even with qualifications in mental health. I'll miss some of the clients, they get to you after a while. But it's foot forward and what's best for the family and I.

 

[MrK1]

Good luck in the new role.

 

[UKRob]

Guys, there's a lot of mythology around zero hours contracts. And they are normally squewed in the employers favour.
The 'franchise' but is worrisome. If it's an American franchise, the contract may not be written / be governed by English law, and therefore a whole different ball game.
If @Godfather is offering to look at your contract for you @Northam Saint and knows what he's talking about, go for it.
Best of luck with it all

Appreciate that it's a moot point now - but I think this comment is very misleading. Basically if you work in this country you are protected by UK legislation - regardless of a franchise or American type contract. You cannot contract out of employment law.

 

[SensitiveGuy]

Appreciate that it's a moot point now - but I think this comment is very misleading. Basically if you work in this country you are protected by UK legislation - regardless of a franchise or American type contract. You cannot contract out of employment law.

Agreed, sorry, badly written, my point was it doesn't stop certain unscrupulous companies trying a little bullying to make you behave how they want you to, by thinking you're not governed by English law.

 

[Northam Saint]

Well that's my final shift over and done with. Totally professionally too, been busy finding jobs to do so no one can slag me off any further. Yeah the "team leader" was slagging me off to the clients, bear in mind this was someone with bipolar she was talking about me too. Nice, classy and so very professional,NOT. To me, she can say what she wants, I'm better than her by saying nothing and not biting back. I've certainly made the right choice in leaving.

 

[chrisbd]

Sorry, picked upon this far too late as usual. Zero hours contracts, graveyard of the soul and the best opportunity for unscrupulous or bad managers to bully their staff with threat of no work. Our daughter was on them for a couple of years after uni, our son's been on one for about 4 months. Mostly skewed to employer's advantage.

You're better off out and your manager clearly knew she was in the wrong when you called her bluff, sounds a nasty piece of work all round. For future reference, as a rule of thumb, the guidance on notice was always monthly paid, one month's notice, weekly paid, one week's notice, unless your contract specifies differently. That's probably been turned on its head now.

Walk away, kick the dust from your shoes and don't look back. Good luck with whatever venture you next undertake.

Regards,
Chris

 

[Northam Saint]

Sorry, picked upon this far too late as usual. Zero hours contracts, graveyard of the soul and the best opportunity for unscrupulous or bad managers to bully their staff with threat of no work. Our daughter was on them for a couple of years after uni, our son's been on one for about 4 months. Mostly skewed to employer's advantage.

You're better off out and your manager clearly knew she was in the wrong when you called her bluff, sounds a nasty piece of work all round. For future reference, as a rule of thumb, the guidance on notice was always monthly paid, one month's notice, weekly paid, one week's notice, unless your contract specifies differently. That's probably been turned on its head now.

Walk away, kick the dust from your shoes and don't look back. Good luck with whatever venture you next undertake.

Regards,
Chris

Well it's all going very well and I'm really enjoying my new job, in fact I love it.