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les24preludes

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This was a joke, of course. The conversation went "what are the most common and typical animals for different countries..." So of course lions in Africa, elephants in Asia, condors around the Andes etc. etc. So when it came to the UK and what seemed the most common and typical animal, someone suggested pigeons and we all had a good laugh. Simple as that.
 

Hectorsgaf

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This was a joke, of course. The conversation went "what are the most common and typical animals for different countries..." So of course lions in Africa, elephants in Asia, condors around the Andes etc. etc. So when it came to the UK and what seemed the most common and typical animal, someone suggested pigeons and we all had a good laugh. Simple as that.
Sounds to me like you have dug a hole just over chest high and are now struggling to get out of it. :scratchhead:
 

Wayne

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For the life of me I cannot understand why we English have to be ashamed of ourselves when all other nations can happily enjoy and be proud of their Countries as if we are the only ones that ever did anything wrong to the world.
Well this Englishman will never be ashamed nor brow beaten by anyone into not loving and respecting my Country.
 

les24preludes

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Sounds to me like you have dug a hole just over chest high and are now struggling to get out of it. :scratchhead:
I have absolutely no idea what you are all talking about - this was clearly a joke and was never anything other than that. Please don't make me use smilies, which I never use because they destroy the subtlety of conversation. If jokes aren't self-evident, I apologise, but I would have thought in this case it could hardly be anything else. This was a genuine conversation and it went exactly as described. Most of my friends are jazz musicians and I'm pretty used to being on that wavelength. I don't know what more I can say, frankly.
 

TobyC

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I have absolutely no idea what you are all talking about - this was clearly a joke and was never anything other than that. Please don't make me use smilies, which I never use because they destroy the subtlety of conversation. If jokes aren't self-evident, I apologise, but I would have thought in this case it could hardly be anything else. This was a genuine conversation and it went exactly as described. Most of my friends are jazz musicians and I'm pretty used to being on that wavelength. I don't know what more I can say, frankly.
I don't know what their problem is either, super sensitive folks looking for something that isn't there.
 

MntnMan62

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I have absolutely no idea what you are all talking about - this was clearly a joke and was never anything other than that. Please don't make me use smilies, which I never use because they destroy the subtlety of conversation. If jokes aren't self-evident, I apologise, but I would have thought in this case it could hardly be anything else. This was a genuine conversation and it went exactly as described. Most of my friends are jazz musicians and I'm pretty used to being on that wavelength. I don't know what more I can say, frankly.
Unfortunately this medium of typing words on a page without the benefit of vocal inflection and facial expression can cause comments to be interpreted in a very different manner than the author intended.
 

les24preludes

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Unfortunately this medium of typing words on a page without the benefit of vocal inflection and facial expression can cause comments to be interpreted in a very different manner than the author intended.
Clearly that can be the case. But is it now the case, unlike the pre-smiley world, that unless you use a smiley the assumption is you're being serious? That would be a big shift. You see where I'm coming from here?

Unfortunately I just can't imagine all the classic comic literature I've read over the years - S.J Perelman, Mark Twain, Damon Runyon, PG Woodhouse, all the Russians like Ilf+Petrov, Catch 22, The World According to Garp.............. (and loads more) ..... I can't imagine any of these with smileys. It's unthinkable. Surely the humour is intrinsic and doesn't need to be pointed out with a big stick? Are we losing all that?
 

MntnMan62

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Clearly that can be the case. But is it now the case, unlike the pre-smiley world, that unless you use a smiley the assumption is you're being serious? That would be a big shift. You see where I'm coming from here?

Unfortunately I just can't imagine all the classic comic literature I've read over the years - S.J Perelman, Mark Twain, Damon Runyon, PG Woodhouse, all the Russians like Ilf+Petrov, Catch 22, The World According to Garp.............. (and loads more) ..... I can't imagine any of these with smileys. It's unthinkable. Surely the humour is intrinsic and doesn't need to be pointed out with a big stick? Are we losing all that?
I see where you're coming from but as sarcastic as I am, I've also missed the intent of what I've read and have had to go through the uncomfortable point of being told that I misinterpreted what was said. And is that so hard to imagine when even when spoken in person many people are still often misinterpreted? You can't compare this stuff to classic literature. Often these comments are made on a stand alone basis. Things said in classic literature are within the context of the book we are reading. Much easier to understand when the context is established for us. Humor isn't always intrinsic on these forums. We haven't lost anything that we never had in the first place.
 

les24preludes

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We haven't lost anything that we never had in the first place.
That's a nice turn of phrase! Maybe I'm assuming too much. I'm still never going to use smileys, though, it's just not my thing. I was a literature major in college, and playing around with language is too precious. I really don't want to make enemies for no reason, I really don't. That's not what I want at all.
 
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