Are you watching Harry and Meghan?

[Northam Saint]

I don't know what to make of it, they're obviously trying to cash in. If I was being cynical I would point out that an interview where everyone says nice things doesn't make headlines and that as the palace is unlikely to respond Meghan can sling mud with gay abandon.

I do think that she hadn't realised that she wouldn't be a princess and that being a member of the royal family is a job, it's not all ballgowns and servants. I think Harry's put himself in an unenviable position having lost the privileges of royalty but kept the fame, it's not like he can go out and get a job.

For the record I'd class myself a moderate royalist, I'm just not interested enough to spend three hours watching Meghan attack an institution that she knows will not respond, with allegations that cannot be backed up.

Same here moderate royalist and you are spot on. Lost their income, what can we do, I know let’s have a go and someone will pay us for doing it.

 

[UKRob]

The issue about racist discussions with Harry does not ring true to me. Can you imagine anyone being so tin eared as to say to Harry there are concerns about the future baby’s skin colour? What on earth would be the point - nothing to be done about it. In any event, they could have been hoping the baby did not inherit Harry’s colouring. Now, as to Archie not having the title of Prince, I’m not yet fully convinced that his dad is 100% royal blood.

 

[isaiah53]

I think people should be casting their gaze upon prince Andrew... Just saying....

 

[JamieM]

I think people should be casting their gaze upon prince Andrew... Just saying....

Absolutely agree, Prince Andrew needs to be extradited to the US to answer some rather difficult questions.

 

[TheChrisC]

The issue with some of the opinions in this thread is that nobody is really talking about her mental health issues. None of us know the truth, but someone who says they were suicidal deserves to be heard. While I’m not a royalist and have no real stakes in this, patriotism in this country has created a lot of negativity.

Who knows how truthful Meghan is being. That said, the British press is doing what they always do - they built her up and now they’ll take her down. Just like they did to Diana.

 

[Chris]

Let’s stop making personal comments now please chaps, these people are in the public eye but they’re still people.

 

[Dr Watson]

nobody is really talking about her mental health issues. None of us know the truth, but someone who says they were suicidal deserves to be heard.

From my own experience struggling with depression and suicidal thoughts (long in the past, thankfully) it's not something you go out there and blab about... totally the opposite in fact, you bury it deep down inside, pretty much no one in my family knows to this day. She's an attention seeking actress.

“Never tell your problems to anyone... 20% don't care and the other 80% are glad you have them.” - Lou Holtz

 

[TheChrisC]

From my own experience struggling with depression and suicidal thoughts (long in the past, thankfully) it's not something you go out there and blab about... totally the opposite in fact, you bury it deep down inside, pretty much no one in my family knows to this day. She's an seeking attention actress.

“Never tell your problems to anyone... 20% don't care and the other 80% are glad you have them.” - Lou Holtz

I don’t know really, that’s a fairly individual experience that you’re quoting. Really, the feeling that you can’t speak to someone is part of how insular mental health issues sometimes can be. The idea of not telling people is why so many have died from it, and I speak as someone who has suicidal feelings every single week. Lots of people absolutely will experience what you did but the quote at the end isn’t a healthy way to view your problems and other people’s perceptions of them.

The fact that she’s speaking about this now rather than when it was happening suggests that she absolutely went through a long period of telling few if anybody about it. I guess I don’t fully understand why what she’s doing to seek attention would be viewed as a good thing by her, given that much of it has been extremely negative. The British have turned against her, she’s fighting the monarchy. Where’s the benefit?

 

[Northam Saint]

Let’s stop making personal comments now please chaps, these people are in the public eye but they’re still people.

You are right they are people.

But they go out public, use the press to manipulate and in the end set themselves up. They clearly don’t want to be in the limelight so duck out in a peaceful way, no slagging off others and be respectful.

 

[TheChrisC]

You are right they are people.

But they go out public, use the press to manipulate and in the end set themselves up. They clearly don’t want to be in the limelight so duck out in a peaceful way, no slagging off others and be respectful.

The press, especially British, can be some of the most disrespectful and manipulative people in the world. Let’s not forget that they have the power to twist a story any which why they want to. Meghan may be manipulative herself but let’s not completely disregard that the British press can and will destroy anybody who doesn’t curry favour with them.

 

[Dr Watson]

I don’t know really, that’s a fairly individual experience that you’re quoting. Really, the feeling that you can’t speak to someone is part of how insular mental health issues sometimes can be. The idea of not telling people is why so many have died from it, and I speak as someone who has suicidal feelings every single week. Lots of people absolutely will experience what you did but the quote at the end isn’t a healthy way to view your problems and other people’s perceptions of them.

The fact that she’s speaking about this now rather than when it was happening suggests that she absolutely went through a long period of telling few if anybody about it. I guess I don’t fully understand why what she’s doing to seek attention would be viewed as a good thing by her, given that much of it has been extremely negative. The British have turned against her, she’s fighting the monarchy. Where’s the benefit?

I accept your point on individual experience but still disagree regarding motive. She mentions it now because it strengthens the victimhood narrative, everything she does is coldly calculated. You make it sound as if the public turned against her for no reason when in reality her attitude and behaviour caused it, action and reaction.

I'm checking out of this thread, I've spent too long already thinking about these people lol.

 

[TheChrisC]

I accept your point on individual experience but still disagree regarding motive. She mentions it now because it strengthens the victimhood narrative, everything she does is coldly calculated. You make it sound as if the public turned against her for no reason when in reality her attitude and behaviour caused it, action and reaction.

No, I mean I do agree that at the end of the day she should have known what she was in for. She and Harry created what’s happening now in terms of us against them. I guess I’m just open to being a bit more flexible about exactly why they’re doing it, because I don’t know if there’s an actual benefit. We can see how it turned out for Diana when she was cast adrift from everyone else.

I think where I’m coming from is just being a bit careful to crucify someone based on her objection to the monarchy. People are treating her like she deserves to be destroyed. If she’s attention seeking she won’t be the first and likely not the last I’m afraid.

 

[isaiah53]

I've got no time for the royal family whatsoever, I think they're an outdated obscenity.
However all this stinks of the clichéd coping mechanism of a dysfunctional family... Give the red headed stepchild a whuppin' and everything will be ok.

 

[Rufusdog]

They appealed to the audience’s emotions so as to avoid facts and critical thinking.

 

[TobyC]

American here.... Looks like Piers Morgan hacked this thread. So happy he tanked in the US and you have him back. Don’t understand the hate for Harry and Meghan.

I like Piers Morgan, he is absolutely on the money pretty much all the time. He sees through all the crap and focuses on the real issues the way that they really are.