Any pure EV owners here?

[R181]

What a mess with EV fast-charging stations and their reliability over here. Not all EVs can use all fast-charging stations.

MSN

All that after paying over $100,000.00 for a brand new pickup truck.

Bob

 

[Smiffy]

What a mess with EV fast-charging stations and their reliability over here. Not all EVs can use all fast-charging stations.

MSN

All that after paying over $100,000.00 for a brand new pickup truck.

Bob

I read today that service stations are employing Marshalls to cope with the angry EV drivers who turn up on a motorway journey with minimal power to find that all the charging bays are occupied or not working.

Someone called in on a radio program today, took them 11 hours in their new EV to cover a journey that would normally take 3 hours in a petrol car due to having to find a charging point.

The air might be greener but the language from his furious wife about his choice of car was a distinct shade of blue.

 

[R181]

I read today that service stations are employing Marshalls to cope with the angry EV drivers who turn up on a motorway journey with minimal power to find that all the charging bays are occupied or not working.

Someone called in on a radio program today, took them 11 hours in their new EV to cover a journey that would normally take 3 hours in a petrol car due to having to find a charging point.

The air might be greener but the language from his furious wife about his choice of car was a distinct shade of blue.

Yes, marvellous concept, Introduce and mandate a switch to a totally different type of propulsion for vehicles without first ensuring an adequate infrastructure to support the move was in place. Shades of Yes Minister, cart before the horse. At my age, if I buy another vehicle, it will be an EV but not anytime soon.

Bob

 

[TobyC]

I read today that service stations are employing Marshalls to cope with the angry EV drivers who turn up on a motorway journey with minimal power to find that all the charging bays are occupied or not working.

Someone called in on a radio program today, took them 11 hours in their new EV to cover a journey that would normally take 3 hours in a petrol car due to having to find a charging point.

The air might be greener but the language from his furious wife about his choice of car was a distinct shade of blue.

The air is worse, gotta pollute to make ev batteries and the ev car, and the electric power to charge it. We can't stop mother nature, the earth will warm, just like it has many times before, and the ice will melt, until it's time to freeze again.

 

[Smiffy]

There is also the news that one, at least one, insurance company has decided that for the time being they will not accept new cover or renew policies on electric cars due to the repair costs being 25% more than other cars and also the susceptibility of the batteries to damage.

 

[R181]

The air is worse, gotta pollute to make ev batteries and the ev car, and the electric power to charge it. We can't stop mother nature, the earth will warm, just like it has many times before, and the ice will melt, until it's time to freeze again.

Yes, it has warmed just like many times before. The difference between then and now is that man has made it possible to warm at a much faster rate than in the past. This is especially so post-industrial revolution where man has been able to pollute at an ever-increasing rate artificially increasing the warming many times more than mother nature alone could accomplish. To say it is just mother nature is a cop out.

Bob

 

[R181]

There are other glitches for ev owners too.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/e-scooters-ban-parkdale-building-tenants-1.6966666

Electric Vehicles: Weight Problem Set To Cause Issues For Parking Garages | the deep dive

Before you park your car the next time in a multi-level parking garage, you may want to review the details of your insurance policy. The reason: electric vehicles, which comprise a rapidly growing proportion of North America’s vehicle fleet, are much heavier than conventional cars powered by...

thedeepdive.ca

Bob

 

[UKRob]

I read today that service stations are employing Marshalls to cope with the angry EV drivers who turn up on a motorway journey with minimal power to find that all the charging bays are occupied or not working.

Someone called in on a radio program today, took them 11 hours in their new EV to cover a journey that would normally take 3 hours in a petrol car due to having to find a charging point.

The air might be greener but the language from his furious wife about his choice of car was a distinct shade of blue.

Yes, marvellous concept, Introduce and mandate a switch to a totally different type of propulsion for vehicles without first ensuring an adequate infrastructure to support the move was in place. Shades of Yes Minister, cart before the horse. At my age, if I buy another vehicle, it will be an EV but not anytime soon.

Bob

It’s quite simple - if you don’t fancy an EV then stick to what you know. But please stop denigrating the things you don’t have an effing clue about.

 

[R181]

It’s quite simple - if you don’t fancy an EV then stick to what you know. But please stop denigrating the things you don’t have an effing clue about.

To begin with, I did look into getting an EV/Hybrid before buying a new vehicle in 2021. That was for the purpose of trying to make an informed decision before deciding to buy an ICE car. Some things have changed for the better regarding EVs from my POV since that time. I have already stated that my next vehicle will likely be an EV when I feel the time is appropriate for my purposes. I am not denigrating EVs but just saying there are still some drawbacks to them that need resolving in order for me to buy one. As usual, everyone makes their own informed decision on the subject.

Bob

 

[MPF9]

Have to say, we are really loving this little car and it is working for us especially for Mrs Gaf doing a 14 mile round trip to work that can take 2 hours in the shitty traffic. We have the X4 for journeys so no range anxiety issues. Great in the frosty mornings. Set departure time and it will precondition both the batteries and the cabin. All ready to go when others have the scrapers out. Appreciate that this is not for everybody but hey, this will also take most high performance ICE cars from a stationary start. Not something to be done regularly ( especially at my age ) but it does bring some surprised faces from the boy racers. Spent £17.00 in Leccy last month. That was for 20 days work there and back and a bit of social too.



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Technically speaking your off street parking space appears to be sub standard -but doubt if LA will notice. May be a problem when selling if Solicitor is au fait with required spec.

 

[Smiffy]

It’s quite simple - if you don’t fancy an EV then stick to what you know. But please stop denigrating the things you don’t have an effing clue about.

Unnecessary.

 

[TobyC]

" According to the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, the carbon dioxide emitted from the production of an 80-kilowatt-hour (kWh) battery in something like a Tesla Model 3 would range anywhere from roughly 2.5 tons to just over 17.5 tons. MIT also notes that for every metric ton of lithium mined, as much as 15 tons of carbon dioxide are emitted into the atmosphere. "

" This intensive battery manufacturing means that building a new EV can produce around 80% more emissions than building a comparable gas-powered car. "

 

[nervosa1901]

" According to the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, the carbon dioxide emitted from the production of an 80-kilowatt-hour (kWh) battery in something like a Tesla Model 3 would range anywhere from roughly 2.5 tons to just over 17.5 tons. MIT also notes that for every metric ton of lithium mined, as much as 15 tons of carbon dioxide are emitted into the atmosphere. "

" This intensive battery manufacturing means that building a new EV can produce around 80% more emissions than building a comparable gas-powered car. "

I see you left out this part:

"It depends exactly where and how the battery is made—but when it comes to clean technologies like electric cars and solar power, even the dirtiest batteries emit less CO2 than using no battery at all."

 

[Mangegrain]

Interesting debate.

I have an 13 yo' petrol (not diesel) car. It drives perfectly, but it's ugly, with bumps and hail damage. No issue : I only expect it to drive.
I usually drive it only for less than 100 km a week : local drives to the office, to go shopping, or to nearby friends' on week-ends.

I've been considering to "update" it to an EV or a hybrid for years.

And I can't make my mind up !

That's because I don't consider the EV as a sustainable solution.

Granted : no more exhaust gas, less noise. You still get particles from the tires and the break pads though.
And building a new Li-Ion battery emits tons of carbon dioxide, and who knows how much carbon dioxide recycling that battery will emit when it's out of order ?

Hybrid have a limited electric autonomy, so IMO they're more like a combustion engine car with very heavy batteries leading to more consumption in heat mode. Considering my low car usage and my usually short distances, that could be a solution for me anyway. But still : Li-Ion battery !

So I'll keep my current car, until I have to take a decision.

Maybe I don't need to buy another car : I have other options : walking, bicycle, busses, renting a car when I need it...
None is as easy going as having my own car, but...

Or maybe in a few years from now these issues will be fixed : new batteries technologies...

 

[R181]

Interesting debate.

I have an 13 yo' petrol (not diesel) car. It drives perfectly, but it's ugly, with bumps and hail damage. No issue : I only expect it to drive.
I usually drive it only for less than 100 km a week : local drives to the office, to go shopping, or to nearby friends' on week-ends.

I've been considering to "update" it to an EV or a hybrid for years.

And I can't make my mind up !

That's because I don't consider the EV as a sustainable solution.

Granted : no more exhaust gas, less noise. You still get particles from the tires and the break pads though.
And building a new Li-Ion battery emits tons of carbon dioxide, and who knows how much carbon dioxide recycling that battery will emit when it's out of order ?

Hybrid have a limited electric autonomy, so IMO they're more like a combustion engine car with very heavy batteries leading to more consumption in heat mode. Considering my low car usage and my usually short distances, that could be a solution for me anyway. But still : Li-Ion battery !

So I'll keep my current car, until I have to take a decision.

Maybe I don't need to buy another car : I have other options : walking, bicycle, busses, renting a car when I need it...
None is as easy going as having my own car, but...

Or maybe in a few years from now these issues will be fixed : new batteries technologies...

I have similar reasons for not at this time buying an EV but possibly in the future. I also know quite a few people in the same situation who are waiting also. EVs work very well for some and not quite so well for others.

Bob