Any pure EV owners here?

[R181]

The title CNBC chose seems kind of misleading in that it could make one think they're ditching EVs but it just says they expect the transition to EV-only might take longer and because they have a well selling hybrid, they're going to be making more hybrid models in the meantime.
Seems quite reasonable.

Yea, it is a bit misleading as it will not stop the transition to EVs but it does show that there is a reluctance by a good part of the public to make that transition just yet. I think that indicates that there is a lack of enough infrastructure to support EVs in quite a few areas.

Bob

 

[slapo]

Yea, it is a bit misleading as it will not stop the transition to EVs but it does show that there is a reluctance by a good part of the public to make that transition just yet. I think that indicates that there is a lack of enough infrastructure to support EVs in quite a few areas.

Bob

Righto.
I think it's also a bit of a chicken and egg issue - people are going to be reluctant to buy EVs because of lacking infrastructure in some places, but without people buying EVs there's going to be less pressure to make companies/countries build more infrastructure.

 

[R181]

Righto.
I think it's also a bit of a chicken and egg issue - people are going to be reluctant to buy EVs because of lacking infrastructure in some places, but without people buying EVs there's going to be less pressure to make companies/countries build more infrastructure.

In areas that have a high population density I think there is much less of a problem with infrastructure and distances travelled are also shorter. It is the more sparsely populated areas that have more of a problem. These areas are normally the last to brought up to standards, but they will be as EVs are mandated.

I still think the elephant in the room when speaking of infrastructure is where do we get all the extra electrical capacity for the already strained power grids. Just have to see how that plays out.

Bob

 

[Smiffy]

An additional problem is that there are a large number of people where at home charging is not a practical proposition, people in apartment blocks or terrace housing for example.

The sooner that we can develop synthetic fuel the better.

 

[Northam Saint]

An additional problem is that there are a large number of people where at home charging is not a practical proposition, people in apartment blocks or terrace housing for example.

The sooner that we can develop synthetic fuel the better.

Totally agree, synthetic fuel is the way to go. Some cars at the Goodwood Festival of Speed were running synthetic fuel. Seb Vettel was interviewed and his F1 cars there were running on it with no major changes.

 

[R181]

Synthetic fuels have been around for a long time. It was produced in Germany during WWII in huge quantities.

Bob

 

[Northam Saint]

Synthetic fuels have been around for a long time. It was produced in Germany during WWII in huge quantities.

Bob

That though was coal based so still using a fossil fuel.

 

[Nishy]

No charging issues where I live. I'm with pod point and they provide access to several free EV charging points in the near vicinity, if ever I need.
I do however have a hybrid as opposed to a pure EV. Full charge (20miles) gets me home and back making running the car even cheaper than taking a bus.

 

[alex1921]

Righto.
I think it's also a bit of a chicken and egg issue - people are going to be reluctant to buy EVs because of lacking infrastructure in some places, but without people buying EVs there's going to be less pressure to make companies/countries build more infrastructure.

Musk realized that early and that's why he built the supercharger network. Honestly, if I would to buy an EV it would be a Tesla just because of that.

 

[Smiffy]

Musk realized that early and that's why he built the supercharger network. Honestly, if I would to buy an EV it would be a Tesla just because of that.

There are seven Teslas in the UK that have done more than 300,000 miles and, according to a recent car renovation program that puts Tesla motors in old cars, several American Teslas that have done more than a million so obviously EV vehicles work for some people.

 

[Northam Saint]

 

[R181]

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Try that at -20C to -30C and see how happy you are.

Bob

 

[slapo]

I'm thinking similar debates were taking place when automobiles of old came out when horses and trains were still the dominant modes of transportation.

 

[alex1921]

There are seven Teslas in the UK that have done more than 300,000 miles and, according to a recent car renovation program that puts Tesla motors in old cars, several American Teslas that have done more than a million so obviously EV vehicles work for some people.

Yes, I know a couple people who have owned one for at least 5 years now and no complaints. Specially for city driving/going to work from the suburbs.
Yes, they do lose range, I dont remember the exact number, in the winter when the temps drop but nothing prohibitive for this kind of driving.
I think everybody just needs to assess their own needs and decide.

 

[p.b]

New EU law requires EV fast chargers along main roads by 2025 (electrek.co)

Really important law has come into force for EU which significantly strengthens infrastructure ambition in EU.
Fast charging stations every 60km (at least 150kW) - for Cars and Vans from 2025
Hydrogen refuelling stations every 200km serving Cars and Trucks too from 2030
Drivers must be able to pay easily (w/o need for subscription)