TOP OF THE CHAIN - SHIPPING SUSPENSION

[michlaustn]

Is this the only way to buy splashes for the American soaps? Such as Barrister and Mann and Wholly Kaw?

Of course if anyone has sets to sell I’d be interested!


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Some of the Wholly Kaw splashes are alcohol free so you should be able to order them from Maggards

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[SeanC]

You would think that someone would start selling an AS or EDT concentrate less alcohol which could then be diluted on receipt as a workaround to shipping restrictions??

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[Mr Bigmem]

You would think that someone would start selling an AS or EDT concentrate less alcohol which could then be diluted on receipt as a workaround to shipping restrictions??

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The same way you can buy larger bottles of nicotine free eliquid and add your own Nic shot. Quick someone patent that idea lol

 

[SeanC]

The same way you can buy larger bottles of nicotine free eliquid and add your own Nic shot. Quick someone patent that idea lol

Exactly that

I will be watching new product releases like a hawk now lol

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[Mr Bigmem]

Exactly that

I will be watching new product releases like a hawk now lol

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Its bang on a super idea. The issue is how hard is getting the right alcohol the other end. With vape juice you can buy the short fill bottles give you enough space to add the nicotine. With an AS the scent will be too concentrated to pass Tox certs. I wonder what % the alcohol is in a good splash. Ok i'm gonna do some research

 

[SeanC]

Its bang on a super idea. The issue is how hard is getting the right alcohol the other end. With vape juice you can buy the short fill bottles give you enough space to add the nicotine. With an AS the scent will be too concentrated to pass Tox certs. I wonder what % the alcohol is in a good splash. Ok i'm gonna do some research

You can already buy perfumer's alcohol in bulk. Just standardise everything like vaping products, but in reverse. Fragrance shots, supplied with a label, which go into a generic oversized bottles of perfumer's alcohol.

Could have AS, EDT and EDP varients for the alcohol. The former also containing appropriate ingredients to nourish the skin.

If the concept is legal for vaping then it should be for frags too

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[Mr Bigmem]

You can already buy perfumer's alcohol in bulk. Just standardise everything like vaping products, but in reverse. Fragrance shots, supplied with a label, which go into a generic oversized bottles of perfumer's alcohol.

Could have AS, EDT and EDP varients for the alcohol. The former also containing appropriate ingredients to nourish the skin.

If the concept is legal for vaping then it should be for frags too

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I defo think this has legs. Some Artisans are already selling alcohol free aftershaves branded as toners. Would cost them even less to reduce the water and which hazel and give specifics on % of alcohol to add to get your AS EDT or EDP.

 

[Benz3ne]

Well up until now they had been getting past the airfreight ban on shipping alcahol by shipping by land and sea

It's not a ban, it's a restriction. It's more costly to ship Limited Quantities via Air than it is via Surface (land/sea), in simple terms, and requires more involved dangerous goods shipping notes/declarations (DGN). Given the quote earlier, it sounds as though the ferry service Canada Post were using decided against shipments of flammable liquids for whatever reason (perhaps due to incorrect labelling, marking and packaging or incorrect DGN by other parties).

Either way, if you're LQ and EQ trained for surface and air shipments, you'd find a way around it fairly easily, as TOTC seem to have done.

 

[Benz3ne]

You can already buy perfumer's alcohol in bulk. Just standardise everything like vaping products, but in reverse. Fragrance shots, supplied with a label, which go into a generic oversized bottles of perfumer's alcohol.

Could have AS, EDT and EDP varients for the alcohol. The former also containing appropriate ingredients to nourish the skin.

If the concept is legal for vaping then it should be for frags too

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'Perfumers' alcohol isn't always the best. It's usually 50% alcohol* plus water, plus monopropylene glycol (also found in vape juice and smoke machines) and isopropyl myristate to try and use up cheap 'fixatives' and dilute the alcohol to an extent it becomes packing group III rather than PG II (shipping lingo). As a result you could ship more in bulk per box, but that doesn't necessarily mean the recipient will try using a decent enough grade alcohol, or that the 'perfumers' alcohol is a decent enough grade itself. Either way, it still is classed as dangerous goods and should be shipped as so (not that it ever is through eBay).

*it's not difficult to buy 40% alc. Vodka. Both will have not dissimilar evaporative characteristics. You might get more cloudiness with the Vodka on addition of your 'fragrance shot'.

It often uses completely denatured alcohol (CDA) which is less regulated on receipt versus TSDA (trade-specific denatured alcohol). Compositions for both vary, too;

CDA: ~85% Ethanol, ~5% Isopropanol, ~5% Butanone, 1g/1,000L Bitrex, rest is water content.
TSDA-1 (for perfumes, commercially): ~90% Ethanol, ~5% Isopropanol.

The Bitrex does have a slight smell, the Bitrex definitely has a taste (unbearably bitter). Butanone isn't the nicest stuff either, but it's in relatively low percentages.

The other option, I guess, would be for someone to think of something which would dilute well enough with Vodka - it's often more regulated than CDA/'perfumers' alcohol and can be bought off most shelves.

On the topic of generic fragrance shot in a consignment of alcohol, you'd still need to package, label, mark and ship in accordance with dangerous goods regs, so cost-wise it'd be no different. The major differential is you'd have more packaging to have the big bottle of alcohol and the little bottle of concentrated fragrance. I'm surprised more 'niche' houses, with fewer outgoings, limit to 30mL which would take them into the realm of Excepted Quantities, but I won't bore you with those details just yet...

 

[michlaustn]

Checked the site today and they have in the footer the following:

Update for International Customers - We hope to have service restored by Monday or Tuesday of this week using DHL as our international shipper. Thanks for you patience.

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[struttura.originaria]

Checked the site today and they have in the footer the following:

Update for International Customers - We hope to have service restored by Monday or Tuesday of this week using DHL as our international shipper. Thanks for you patience.

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Now the issue is... the customs I'm talking to Carmine about this.

 

[Paul]

They charge £11 fee, 2.7% duty, then 20% import VAT on duty & goods on anything over £15 in value.

 

[HMan]

£11 fee ouch that hurts!

 

[michlaustn]

We need a soap mule. Send them over, swallow condoms full of soap and then let nature take its course.

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[HMan]

I'm not sure that's the kind of Donkey Milk I want.