The Olympics

R181

Grumpy old man
In a time when most all countries are stretched to the limits financially, should we be considering less expensive ways of putting on the Grande spectacle that is the Olympics? Even in "Have" countries more and more people are finding it difficult to afford food, housing and other basics. Rather than burdening a different country for hosting each Olympics game, could not two permanent locations be chosen to host the Summer and Winter Olympics? Just a thought in the dark here.

Bob
 

Estariol

Forum GOD!
For more than a decade, i find all high-end sports events and professional sports to be a modern version od "bread and games" of ancient Rome. I once read somewhere, quote:
"If people would dedicate their passion to genuinely important matters instead of sports, the world would be a better place." End quote.
 

DesertIguana

Forum GOD!
As long as the countries are not asking citizens to chip in, I do not care how much they spend. If I go solicited, my reply is I have my favorite charities.
 

chazt

shave
In a time when most all countries are stretched to the limits financially, should we be considering less expensive ways of putting on the Grande spectacle that is the Olympics? Even in "Have" countries more and more people are finding it difficult to afford food, housing and other basics. Rather than burdening a different country for hosting each Olympics game, could not two permanent locations be chosen to host the Summer and Winter Olympics? Just a thought in the dark here.

Bob
It’s an interesting concept, Bob, but imo, one that likely won’t catch on for a number of reasons. The quadrennial roving nature of the Olympic Games are ingrained in our collective psyche. I suspect that having one’s homeland as host of the Olympics is a great source of national pride for most citizens of the world. Would we want to deprive people/nations the opportunity to shine on the world stage?

Re: logistics; how would the IOC make the decision to centralize the winter and summer events? Just that process alone seems like a decades long argument/discussion/negotiation/nightmare waiting to happen.

From my limited understanding, the world’s Olympic villages continue to benefit their people / nations for decades after the games have concluded. I’m pretty sure they’re used as training facilities and perhaps even as vacation / tourist destinations by citizens and also world travelers. One of our highlights of visiting Spain was the Olympic Village in Barcelona. Tourism is a valid by-product of having been a host nation.

Might the permanent location, for all the reasons we could state, be it summer or winter, give that nation’s athletes an unfair advantage over their counterparts around the world?

All that said, if the IOC decides to take the route you suggest, my nomination for the permanent home of the Summer Games is Greece.
 

R181

Grumpy old man
Of course they are, they use your taxes
Exactly, there is tax money from all levels of a country's government going towards the ongoing business of systematic training programmes for the different sports even in non-Olympic years. Never mind what extra tax money is spent to prepare a new Olympic sight.

Personally, I could care less if Canada never hosted an Olympic game again.

Bob
 

chazt

shave
Noting good about being hosting city or country.
Agreed, costs are prohibitive and generally careening out of control. But there are intangibles that can’t be measured on a purely economic basis. Maybe that’s the idealist aging hippie in me, but I dig the spirit of the Olympic Games, and spirit isn’t easily defined or quantified. But I do believe it’s real.
 

R181

Grumpy old man
Agreed, costs are prohibitive and generally careening out of control. But there are intangibles that can’t be measured on a purely economic basis. Maybe that’s the idealist aging hippie in me, but I dig the spirit of the Olympic Games, and spirit isn’t easily defined or quantified. But I do believe it’s real.
Yes, but over time that Olympic spirit has be perverted to become predominantly a display of ego for the host country. Now many places are refusing to volunteer to be hosts because of costs to put it on. You can add to that the increasing ways of cheating seen now. The Canadian Womens Soccer Team being caught cheating is just another one of those. Mind you, it was poetic justice/karma that they were eliminated and did not get to play the medal round. I think they should not have been allowed to play at all and or recalled before playing any game.

Bob
 

chazt

shave
Yes, but over time that Olympic spirit has be perverted to become predominantly a display of ego for the host country. Now many places are refusing to volunteer to be hosts because of costs to put it on. You can add to that the increasing ways of cheating seen now. The Canadian Womens Soccer Team being caught cheating is just another one of those. Mind you, it was poetic justice/karma that they were eliminated and did not get to play the medal round. I think they should not have been allowed to play at all and or recalled before playing any game.

Bob
Points taken across the board. I find cheating reprehensible in any facet of life. Do the best you can, and if you think there’s room for improvement, keep working at it. It’s the effort that’s most important. Have you learned? Have you grown? Cheating doesn’t allow one to legitimately answer those questions. I agree, those who’ve been proven to have cheated should not be allowed to participate.
 

Occams Razor

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I stopped paying attention years ago, when records fell because of illegal substances. Looks like nothing has changed.
 
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