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Twelvefret

Twelvefret

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Circa 2002 I was on the way, with the club, to the put in at the river we were going to paddle. One of the club members was an environmental advocate. She had one the first Toyota Prius models. I remarked that I had a 1999 Tahoe. She asked if I was concerned about the fuel consumption and I acknowledged her point, but that the vehicle was paid for. She continued to be critical. One of the other members said. Rene, I do not think you understand his point. Whatever the fuel cost is, that he has no payment means his cost is less than owning a car getting better milage.
 
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R181

Grumpy old man
I got comfortably through my life with a grade 9 education and 1 year at a community college which is not university here in Canada. You can't do that anymore as you literally need a BA to be a Wally World greeter or so it seems. Higher education has been turned into a high profit production line business and has cranked out so many people that it has diluted the value of having a university degree while hugely increasing the cost of getting one.

I recall when free trade with the US was being talked about and eventually came to be. Many argued that free trade would gut our manufacturing jobs here in Ontario but were told there would be plenty of service industry jobs created to take their place. You try telling anyone that today with 50 years of hindsight and they would think your brains were on fire for evening suggesting that. Things got even worse when Mexico signed on and then free trade went global after that. Here we are today with a gutted middle class and a huge number of unhappy campers. What will happen next is anyone's guess other than an unstable society.

Bob
 
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chazt

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R181 said:
I got comfortably through my life with a grade 9 education and 1 year at a community college which is not university here in Canada. You can't do that anymore as you literally need a BA to be a Wally World greeter or so it seems. Higher education has been turned into a high profit production line business and has cranked out so many people that it has diluted the value of having a university degree while hugely increasing the cost of getting one.

I recall when free trade with the US was being talked about and eventually came to be. Many argued that free trade would gut our manufacturing jobs here in Ontario but were told there would be plenty of service industry jobs created to take their place. You try telling anyone that today with 50 years of hindsight and they would think your brains were on fire for evening suggesting that. Things got even worse when Mexico signed on and then free trade went global after that. Here we are today with a gutted middle class and a huge number of unhappy campers. What will happen next is anyone's guess other than an unstable society.

Bob
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Points made and taken, Bob. Agreed, NAFTA wasn’t the panacea they said it would be. Re: the gutted middle class, and an unstable society, if you don’t mind a bit of free associating, you got me thinking about a bleak futuristicky sci-fi landscape. Fahrenheit 451, Soylent Green and then Sleeper came to mind. The first two are classic films of the genre. Sleeper is mostly just silly :p:
 
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Grumpy old man
TobyC said:
Damn right, we work, they ride for free. Commie bastages! 🤬
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Definitely not an unexpected comment. Have you ever considered that it is a virulent form of capitalism that brought global free trade and the situation we are now in? All the more laughable as it was a communist country, China, that used it to put us there.

Bob
 
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