Brits paying a third extra in order to get EU goods

[allmightu]

An article in today's Times, reports that DPD is charging a 30% premium to bring goods from the EU to the UK.

It looks like I won't be getting that Pils after all.

I used to buy many things from Birtain, using a courier service that delivers to my country. Now it's impossible to do. RIP ebay, UK amazon and any goods I was previously buying from there. :/

 

[R181]

An article in today's Times, reports that DPD is charging a 30% premium to bring goods from the EU to the UK.

It looks like I won't be getting that Pils after all.

I think that is pretty normal. I doubt courier services charge the brokerage fees they are entitled to when moving goods within the EU. When you are not in the EU you have to go through customs so there is a brokers fee/fees attached for that service.

I have not used a courier service to import goods into Canada for more than 30 years having been bitten by these so called brokers fees adding a large percentage to the overall cost of the item. If it can't be shipped by mail they can keep the item. Never been stiffed that badly by CanPost. I will use a courier service within Canada as no brokers fees can be applied.

Brexit has it's advantages and disadvantage with additional brokers fees possibly being a disadvantage to some. Any company importing goods will also be subject to brokers fees and that will be passed on to consumers eventually when currently in stock imported items need be replenished.

Bob

 

[Rufusdog]

Have you emailed them and asked for VAT to be removed? If I were buying something expensive like a Shavemac I'd want the German VAT removed.

Anyone tried that?

Any time I’ve ordered a brush from shavemac, or other EU vendors, VAT is automatically removed at check-out when I enter my mailing address in Canada. When it reaches Canada, however, there is about a 50/50 chance that I’ll incur duties and tax.

 

[UKRob]

And anyone that voted Brexit and is moaning about this can feck right off

I suspect that anyone else posting something as contentious as this would lead to the thread being closed by a so-called moderator. The fact is that trade between UK and Europe is hardly any different for the likes of us, so Brexit problems are mainly in the eye of the beholder.

 

[culcreuch]

I suspect that anyone else posting something as contentious as this would lead to the thread being closed by a so-called moderator. The fact is that trade between UK and Europe is hardly any different for the likes of us, so Brexit problems are mainly in the eye of the beholder.

Have you seen this?

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[R181]

Any time I’ve ordered a brush from shavemac, or other EU vendors, VAT is automatically removed at check-out when I enter my mailing address in Canada. When it reaches Canada, however, there is about a 50/50 chance that I’ll incur duties and tax.

Yes, same here with the VAT but a little better on the odds of making it through unscathed by duties and taxes than your experience. Have to ask were those shipped via courier or regular mail service? If it was by a courier service was a brokers fee included that you had to pay.

Seems a lot of people are now finding out the shipping an item internationally by a courier service incurs extra expenses.

Calgary mom accuses courier giant DHL of charging 'hidden fees' (yahoo.com)

Bob

 

[Rufusdog]

Yes, same here with the VAT but a little better on the odds of making it through unscathed by duties and taxes than your experience. Have to ask were those shipped via courier or regular mail service? If it was by a courier service was a brokers fee included that you had to pay.

Seems a lot of people are now finding out the shipping an item internationally by a courier service incurs extra expenses.

Calgary mom accuses courier giant DHL of charging 'hidden fees' (yahoo.com)

Bob

I haven’t used an international courier service in a long time because of the high brokerage fees. I buy a lot from Lands’ End and LL Bean in the US; they use a courier service, but there is no extra charge for shipping and they have a a value threshold over which shipping is free. Both collect Canadian duties and taxes at source. For my last three purchases from other vendors in the US the vendor has used USPS/Canada Post. In all three cases the value has been about US$150 each and the vendor has declared full value, but I’ve not had to pay Canadian duties and taxes.

 

[Rowlers]

I suspect that anyone else posting something as contentious as this would lead to the thread being closed by a so-called moderator.

Really!? Too much Vino tonight Rob?
Two months has passed since I posted that... I stand buy it. If you voted Brexit then you have no right to complain about the current export/import tax/duty situation. I really don't see how this is contentious?
Considering what I do on/for here I find this quite, in fact, very offensive...

 

[UKRob]

Really!? Too much Vino tonight Rob?
Two months has passed since I posted that... I stand buy it. If you voted Brexit then you have no right to complain about the current export/import tax/duty situation. I really don't see how this is contentious?
Considering what I do on/for here I find this quite, in fact, very offensive...

So you are suggesting that no-one can criticise moderators because they give their time to the site? I find your comment about too much wine to be offensive. And for the record, I am not moaning about the impact of new import controls - I have continued to buy goods from the EU with no problems whatsoever. If the reference to shaving soap accreditation does go ahead, then that puts the UE into the same situation as other countries. What is so bad about that?

 

[Zwilling]

If the reference to shaving soap accreditation does go ahead, then that puts the UE into the same situation as other countries. What is so bad about that?

In relation to the point about certification, I think the crucial difference is that before Brexit, a US soap manufacturer who wanted to sell in the UK and elsewhere could get their soap certified for EU laws, thereby opening up a market of 500 million people for the price of one testing certificate for each of their products. Now, the UK is insisting on that US soap manufacturer (and indeed, every soap manufacturer anywhere) having a Great Britain-only certificate done for each product, covering only about 55 million people. They might decide that is not worth the hassle or expense.

The kicker is that the UK cosmetics regulations are still identical to the EU regulations - it's just pointless political football until whatever point the government decides to amend legislation. But that political football will create price increases for consumers and severe difficulties for business, for no benefit.

 

[Chris]

I suspect that anyone else posting something as contentious as this would lead to the thread being closed by a so-called moderator.

I don’t see that post as contentious.

Any thread that is contentious but within the site’s rules is moved to the locker room, threads are normally only locked once they’ve descended into arguments and there is always at least one warning issued first.

 

[UKRob]

In relation to the point about certification, I think the crucial difference is that before Brexit, a US soap manufacturer who wanted to sell in the UK and elsewhere could get their soap certified for EU laws, thereby opening up a market of 500 million people for the price of one testing certificate for each of their products. Now, the UK is insisting on that US soap manufacturer (and indeed, every soap manufacturer anywhere) having a Great Britain-only certificate done for each product, covering only about 55 million people. They might decide that is not worth the hassle or expense.

The kicker is that the UK cosmetics regulations are still identical to the EU regulations - it's just pointless political football until whatever point the government decides to amend legislation. But that political football will create price increases for consumers and severe difficulties for business, for no benefit.

The alternative, of course, is that the UK is free to decide what form of accreditation it requires and may accept equivalence in terms of American (and other countries’) products. In overall terms of Brexit, I just don’t see that shaving soap is a major issue when compared to the major reasons for wanting to leave.

 

[UKRob]

I don’t see that post as contentious.

Any thread that is contentious but within the site’s rules is moved to the locker room, threads are normally only locked once they’ve descended into arguments and there is always at least one warning issued first.

OK Chris - I’ll bear that in mind next time I fancy telling someone I disagree with to f*ck off.

 

[Zwilling]

The alternative, of course, is that the UK is free to decide what form of accreditation it requires and may accept equivalence in terms of American (and other countries’) products. In overall terms of Brexit, I just don’t see that shaving soap is a major issue when compared to the major reasons for wanting to leave.

Well yes, Brexit allows for that legislative independence that GB now has, and clearly this was a major reason for those politicians who espoused Brexit. My point was that at the moment the legislation is identical, in every product category whatsoever, and it would have been a no-brainer to simply have an equivalence-until-further-notice agreement rather than forcing businesses to replicate every single product certification when there is literally no reason for that yet. This would have been perfectly possible, and this would have softened the blow on businesses.

In any case, I certainly do not want to debate the merits of Brexit but I think this product certification requirement is a poor decision on the government's part, in terms of giving form to Brexit. I think David Frost has brought a bullishness to his new role that is about looking tough, at the expense of British businesses who are already having a difficult time.

 

[Holyzeus]

Not attacking nor defending anyone just an observation on forums in general