With & Against the Grain shave. Is it worth doing

Discussion in 'General Shaving' started by JohnT, Jun 13, 2019.

  1. JohnT

    JohnT Active Member

    below is quote from a BBC news article (Should men shave their faces up or down?)
    “Shaving against the grain usually produces a closer shave and faster results - but is also more likely to cause irritation than shaving with the grain, says Matthew Gass from the British Association of Dermatologists. The speedier method can also lead to razor burn, ingrown hairs and even scarring, he adds. Around the neck in particular, the direction of the hair is not always obvious, so it's important to take one's time”

    I have just started to use Oneblade Genesis having for years used disposables.
    I have watched the videos were the emphasis is on 2/3 passes both with and against the grain. And am following the video advice.
    My face has irritation and having read the BBC article I am asking myself why don’t I just go with the grain.
    Surely with a descent razor with a new blade every shave why not go with the grain. Yes I know it will not be as close but from a practical point of view if shaving daily it’s going to be close enough.
     
  2. Blackland Razors

    Blackland Razors Forum GOD! Artisan

    Location:
    San Francisco CA
    If you don’t like going ATG then don’t do it. I rarely go against. There’s also the middle ground of across the grain. You can do WTG and then XTG for closer than WTG but less irritation than ATG.
     
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  3. JonnyBGood

    JonnyBGood Veteran

    have you mapped your beard properly? It’s not always as simple as up or down for wtg or atg - you may find you are at times going xtg
     
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  4. RandySp

    RandySp Legendary Member

    Location:
    Greece
    Ha, with the Dart, you can always go ATG without any problem! :)
     
  5. RandySp

    RandySp Legendary Member

    Location:
    Greece
    To avoid irritating the skin you must first shorten the hairs as much as possible.

    Then the ATG pass will be a piece of cake.

    The key is to avoid repeated passes on the already ATG shaved area. (call me hunter of the BBS)
     
  6. R181

    R181 Grumpy old man

    Mathew Gass is very likely correct if he means trying to do a one pass BBS shave against the grain. For one thing by trying to do it in one pass you are very likely to be using too much pressure causing a decent case of razor burn. No matter the razor it must be used at the right angle with the weight of the razor doing the work without you applying any real pressure. Stubble does not grow in one direction on a face so for me going downward mean going ATG on a section of my neck and in other areas it means going XTG. So, like JonnyBGood said it really is not as simple as up and down.

    Shaving, to me, is using multiple passes to slowly reduce the stubble and using the proper shaving technique. Multiple pass shaving can be done with no ill effects but if you are in a hurry and use a sloppy shaving technique all bets are off. My daily shave is 4 passes with a straight razor. I get no ingrown hairs or razor burn and definitely no scarring. It was not always so but I fine tuned my shaving technique over time.

    If you are happy with the results of a one pass shave, just stay with that.

    Bob
     
  7. Nisse

    Nisse Veteran

    Location:
    Sweden
    My way of mowing stubble is based on reduction using multiple passes in all directions needed for a close and smooth shave with a straight razor
     
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  8. JAGS009

    JAGS009 Forum GOD!

    Location:
    INDIA
    My first pass is mostly wtg. The 2nd is more of a hybrid pass, so to say, between an XTG & ATG.

    Only when the blade is totally new or the soap is a super cushiony kind, I dare going ATG.

    Personally, I am very happy with my hybrid pass and don't feel the need to go completely ATG.


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  9. chris.hale

    chris.hale Forum GOD!

    Location:
    Cumbria, England
    I never shave against the grain, it’s extremely uncomfortable and after about three hours I can feel stubble against the grain again so it’s not worth it for me.
     
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  10. I can only go ATG with certain razors..that said I rarely do as I can get a similar result doing WTG, XTG left to right, XTG right to left.
    ATG on the neck is a no no for me..
     
  11. Steve Bowles

    Steve Bowles Forum GOD!

    Always with the grain, John, never against it. Against the Grain is great for a forum name, but crap for a comfortable, and safe, shave.
     
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  12. les24preludes

    les24preludes Über Member

    I go in all directions without much trouble. I shave every 2 days using very efficient DEs, and get very close shaves. Probably the day off helps avoid irritation.
     
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  13. RandySp

    RandySp Legendary Member

    Location:
    Greece
    If I don't so an ATG pass, I just can't return here to ATG forum and write about my shave. This would be heresy..

    Hehe just kidding don't hit me!
     
  14. MntnMan62

    MntnMan62 Über Member

    Location:
    New Jersey
    With the grain. Across the grain. Against the grain. Touch up. That is my recipe for a BBS shave. It works for me.
     
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  15. ManicDee

    ManicDee Inside a Dark Empty

    For myself, it depends on what the day ahead or evening has in store! Example, if I am going to Bowls or Choir practise, then a simple Wtg shave.
    If however, it is a formal do or a club match well then I take my time and do Wtg, Xtg and Atg and if it is something with the little woman!
    Well then I make sure it takes me longer to get ready than her :laugh:
     
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