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wintoid

Out of control
Fantastic mate, although it isn't fun with long covid. I have zero energy but I'm sticking to it and have reached the 2 stone mark, I'm over the bad part, have no food cravings and it is plain sailing from here on in. Covid isn't helping but lockdown has.
Bloody hell, how have you lost 2 stone in 24 days?
 

Nishy

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Staff member
I am also T2 since 2017 and still overweight, obese actually (51yo, 5ft. 9in. and 113kg.)
Cannot take metformin due to I.B.S.

Last year I did a very strict diet and lost 26kg in 7 weeks, which was crazy.
2hrs walk every am, crunches, diet was 3 very small meals totaling no more than 800-900 cal for every 24hrs, and also did 1 full hr of swimming in the afternoon. Plenty of water daily.

But my body reacted after the first 5 weeks, gave me a skin rash that was increasingly popping up everywhere.
Had to be admitted into a specialist hospital for skin diseases.

Fast forward 15 months, to today, and I have gained 20kg back. But I eat like mad.

Re the One Meal A Day, and IF, I have heard that it does not work as well for people above 45-50 yrs.
Is that true?

Also, appreciate all the insights here, but are we sure that this strategy is suitable for all people?
I am not convinced about that, certainly can try of course.
The other thing is that not all doctors will encourage you to do IF.
So there is always conflict and confusion, or this is how I feel anyway.

Great thread, by the way.
Hi K it isn't suitable for everyone, in your case (from reading previous posts) I would strongly advise against 1 meal/day. Swimming is your best bet
 

Merkurologist

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Fantastic mate, although it isn't fun with long covid. I have zero energy but I'm sticking to it and have reached the 2 stone mark, I'm over the bad part, have no food cravings and it is plain sailing from here on in. Covid isn't helping but lockdown has.
That's fantastic news, congratulations.

I'm doing intermittent fasting so I eat once a day but more calories than you....probably about 1200 cal a day but my main concern is to keep my diabetes under control without tablets.... weight is not an issue anymore, insulin resistance is. I feel full of energy and like yourself I don't feel hungry anymore....my body got used to the diet and after 14h or so the body switches to stored fat for energy.

Today I completed a 96h fast and it was very good, I coud have carried on. I believe my body is totally "fat adapted " by now. Soon I will switch to dinner ->:lunch or 16h fasting to control diabetes and maintain the weight, I guess I'll be able to do 2000 cal a day which is perfect for me I think.

My daughter in law had a go at IF last week and she said she couldn't do it..... but I think she went too quickly so I suggested to cut out al snacks first for a week or two before attempting to miss breakfast. Not everybody can do it though.

Anyway, congratulations once again.


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Wayne

Forum Sod
And congratulations to you too. I need to find a way after the diet to keep it off. I am thinking one meal a day, instead of calling it intermittent fasting I probably will try to just eat a low carb evening meal and enjoy it properly. Hopefully that will work, if not I'll try something else but I have to find a way.
 

Merkurologist

Forum GOD!
And congratulations to you too. I need to find a way after the diet to keep it off. I am thinking one meal a day, instead of calling it intermittent fasting I probably will try to just eat a low carb evening meal and enjoy it properly. Hopefully that will work, if not I'll try something else but I have to find a way.
I think you are on the right track, finding a sustainable way and OMAD is sustainable and by that I mean, you eat one meal but you eat enough to feel satisfied, in other words, you aren't hungry all the time cause that is not sustainable.

The way I look at it is this: if I need 2000cal to maintain my weight then 2000 cal in one meal is a lot of food to be eaten at one time, (provided you eat the right food ) so the likelihood is that you will maintain your weight. I'm so used to this that I don't feel hungry in between but if I feel that I want to enjoy a breakfast with the family then I eat breakfast.

I tried calorie counting once and that is crazy, not worth living for me.

Where I might have an advantage is that I don't drink unless it's a special occasion like Christmas for example....
 

slapo

It's... alive!
A few years ago, I lost ~13kgs of mostly fat in a month. I stopped eating anything with sugar added to it, stopped snacking. I had been exercising before that, too, but I switched to a better structured workout routine (warmup+calisthenics+run for 30 minutes) at the time, too, to prevent muscle loss.
Intermittent fasting mostly works for stabilising blood sugar levels, but I found it needs to be complemented with plenty of sleep, otherwise cravings take over eventually regardless of the diet or whether the diet results in a calorie deficit or surplus.
Counting calories works pretty well, but it becomes a PITA eventually. However, I think it's still worth doing for a month or two every now and then, just to get a better picture of how energy dense certain foods are and how much you really need.

When I wasn't trying to get out of long term sleep deprivation like I still am now, I found that a sensibly sized bowl of food two or three times a day were enough for me and helped keep me reasonably trim. To keep things varied, I used to have a vegetarian breakfast, an optionally meaty lunch and a vegan dinner. Most of those either low in carbs or using comlex carbs there weren't very processed, in addition to having protein and fat to make me feel sated.
 

AlexNoodles

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Old bus drivers joke......'he got rid of the wife'
Fastest way to lose 3 stone? Cut off a leg.

I'm echoing much of what everyone has said, my problem being I'm drinking waaayy too much (go lockdown) which are a lot of additional calories/carbs.
Planning on cutting that out then all sugar extras (T2 as well btw)
 

N_Architect

Travel, See, Feel, Explore
Hi K it isn't suitable for everyone, in your case (from reading previous posts) I would strongly advise against 1 meal/day. Swimming is your best bet
Many thanks Avnish, your advice greatly appreciated.
Indeed I am aware of the potential lack of suitability for me.
Have not started it yet anyhow and most likely I will craft a different (mix of) exercise routine and diet.
 

Merkurologist

Forum GOD!
I am also T2 since 2017 and still overweight, obese actually (51yo, 5ft. 9in. and 113kg.)
Cannot take metformin due to I.B.S.

Last year I did a very strict diet and lost 26kg in 7 weeks, which was crazy.
2hrs walk every am, crunches, diet was 3 very small meals totaling no more than 800-900 cal for every 24hrs, and also did 1 full hr of swimming in the afternoon. Plenty of water daily.

But my body reacted after the first 5 weeks, gave me a skin rash that was increasingly popping up everywhere.
Had to be admitted into a specialist hospital for skin diseases.

Fast forward 15 months, to today, and I have gained 20kg back. But I eat like mad.

Re the One Meal A Day, and IF, I have heard that it does not work as well for people above 45-50 yrs.
Is that true?

Also, appreciate all the insights here, but are we sure that this strategy is suitable for all people?
I am not convinced about that, certainly can try of course.
The other thing is that not all doctors will encourage you to do IF.
So there is always conflict and confusion, or this is how I feel anyway.

Great thread, by the way.
I'm also T2 diabetic and I used to take 4 metformin and 2 other tablets which name I forgot.... lucky me :)

If I were you I would try to go for a low carb diet, high carbs foods like bread, pasta, rice, cakes, fruit juices, etc are diabetics worst enemy.... they spike your sugar level way too much. Salads and vegetables are low in carbs and good for you.

You don't need to fast for a whole day but you could:
1.- Stop all snacks...that's is very helpful, specially if you normally have snacks after your last meal.
2.- in doing No 1 you are actually fasting for 12 hours or so.... say you have dinner at 7pm and breakfast at 7am then you have fasted for 12 hours....actually break-fast breaks your fast everyday, if you didn't notice that you already do fasting :wink: and you can make it for as long as you feel comfortable.
3.- Strech it one hour at a time while you are still comfortable with it.

You are right about some doctors not knowing / not understanding or maybe not wanting to learn new ways, happy to keep treating diabetes just like they 50 years ago.

I did what I described above and then took the fasting a lot further, not once I have felt that I'm harming my health, quite the contrary.

When my doctor congratulated me for lowering my A1C to a normal level, the doctor smile disappeared when I said I wasn't taking any tablets....it was obvious he wasn't happy at all, maybe disappointed that his treatment wasn't what helped me... when I asked to keep the test strips in my repeat prescription he said "you aren't diabetic anymore so I can't prescribe the strips anymore". Not even a little curiosity of how I had reversed diabetes, not really interested.

This was in the paper yesterday.

 

Wayne

Forum Sod
I'm sorry to have neglected this post and think it's time to post an update.
I did do Eight weeks on the shakes then changed to healthy eating. I now have 1 Rice Cake for breakfast with 1 Laughing Cow skinny Cheese Triangle ( Other Triangles are available at more calories)
That comes in at 50 calories, I then do not eat until Tea time and then have 90% vegetables with a little protien, Meat, Fish but I must stress not a lot of that.
So, how is it going? I hear you all yawn,
Well I started at 19 stone 3 lbs and a 46" waist. Last night I got into and did up with ease my 38" Jeans. I'm bloody over the Moon. I've gone from a xxxl to between XL and L depending on brand in Polo shirts and I'm still doing well.
No intention of going back to my old ways, I can cope with this way of eating and I'm actually enjoying eating less crap too.
 

JamieM

Extreme sharpness is ephemeral!
Wayne, I'm really surprised you of all people would be carrying that extra weight, being a plasterer and how physical that job can be, my Brother a 25-year self-employed plasterer with about 4 time served plasterers under him whom he put through heir apprenticeships, looking at those boys including my Brother there is more meat on a Gypsy Dog.
 

Wayne

Forum Sod
Wayne, I'm really surprised you of all people would be carrying that extra weight, being a plasterer and how physical that job can be, my Brother a 25-year self-employed plasterer with about 4 time served plasterers under him whom he put through heir apprenticeships, looking at those boys including my Brother there is more meat on a Gypsy Dog.
I'm not a plasterer buddy, I was a time served Bricklayer but for 25 years I have worked in maintenance and do a variety of maintenance tasks including plasterring. I have the fat gene from my Dad also a bricklayer and he was a big bloke. He died at the same age I am now with a heart attack. Never got to his retirement. That's not happening to me mate. Well hopefully not, we never know do we?
 
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