Rockwell model T update.

Discussion in 'Double Edge Safety Razors (DE)' started by kypros, Jul 9, 2017.

  1. kypros

    kypros Guru

    Location:
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    Hello all,
    I received the update e-mail for June from Gareth and since I don't see any posts about it, here it is.
    Please forgive me if you have received it and know everything about it already.

    New Campaign Update!
    The Rockwell Model T Razor & Blades: Shaving Perfected team just posted.

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    posted by Rockwell Razors

    Jul 7, 2017 • 11:43AM PDT



    June Update - New Production & Chroming
    New Production and Assembly

    Initial production and assembly has been extraordinarily successful as you can see from the fit and finish of the parts in the below pictures. I want to pull particular attention to the fantastic results that are being produced on the production chroming - I'm confident this chroming quality will exceed all your expectations. The thick, durable chroming is a result of the optimizing of materials for each part, and our internal stress testing indicates this chroming can be expected to last generations - we think you’ll be thrilled with the results!

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    The above pictures are of the White Chrome finish. We'll be sharing additional pictures of Brushed Chrome and Gunmetal finishes as soon as possible!

    Assembly is one of the more important parts of the Model T production. We've learned that even if part production is executed perfectly, variance and slight error in assembly can result in performance issues with the razor. The solution to this is to take additional care and quality control steps in assembly. Rockwell Razors is committed to producing incredible quality no matter what and providing exceptional customer care, and we will be upholding that standard as we work on the assembly of the Model T. With that said, we'll provide an update with more precise shipping dates in our update toward the end of July. Thank you for your support!

    Stainless Steel Model T

    As some of you may know, we were exploring the option to manufacture an alternative version of the Model T out of stainless steel using metal injection molding (MIM) for a small subset of backers that were interested in that option. After rigorous exploration and testing of options by our engineers and manufacturers both domestic and abroad, we weren’t able to find any solutions to manufacture using MIM that would meet our quality and performance targets. We’re investigating some options apart from MIM that would work to produce a Stainless Steel Model T for those backers interested and we’ll provide more information on that next month. If you have any specific questions about the Stainless Steel Model T, please direct them to info@rockwellrazors.com so that the discussion on the comments remains focused on the Model T product currently in production.

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    Thank you for having our back! Please reach out to us at info@rockwellrazors.com if you have any questions about production before the next update on July 28th.

    Gareth
    Co-Founder, Rockwell Razors

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  2. hharry

    hharry Forum GOD!

    What will be the retail price for the Model T?
     
  3. Batch300

    Batch300 Extraordinarily Uncomplicated

    The Kickstarter Ultra Early Bird was $79 USD. Last Kickstarter price was $99 USD. The Rockwell update posted above talks great chrome and precision assembly - which sounds to me as extra costs and more than $99 USD. The big concern is the stainless model price - sounds like the reasonable cost option will not work.
     
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  4. Rowlers

    Rowlers Massive Member Staff Member

    Kinda fighting a loosing battle against the Parker Variant though?
     
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  5. Batch300

    Batch300 Extraordinarily Uncomplicated

    The Rockwell Model T is a TTO (butterfly) adjustable razor. Vintage Gillette's on ebay may be more direct competition. I heard tales somewhere of 7,000 sold (Kickstarter had over 4,000 backers plus subsequent sales).

    A £150 ($200 USD) stainless version would be a big seller!
     
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  6. Haiku

    Haiku Well-Known Member

    The Rockwell Model T is a TTO (butterfly) adjustable razor. Vintage Gillette's on eBay may be more direct competition. I heard tales somewhere of 7,000 sold (Kickstarter had over 4,000 backers plus subsequent sales).


    I'm not so sure. The Rockwell has a pot-metal head head, like the Parker. Gillette fatboys and slims are brass. If the plating on the head of a Model T is damaged say by a scratch or if one drops the razor, the pot metal head will begin to deteriorate and it is very unlikely it can be replated The all brass Gillette will not deteriorate and it can be replated.

    As you can see from the post, Rockwell is trying to hype the quality of the plating by saying things like it "can be expected to last generations" They're not guaranteeing the plating will last generations, but they state the it can be expected to. I'm not a fan of this kind of thing.
     
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  7. SweeneyTodd

    SweeneyTodd Forum GOD!

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    It seems we may see the chromed model in our hands by "October/November", and the first 500 or so backers a bit earlier.

    Investigations into the feasibility of an all-stainless model continue, but it looks as if it might be very expensive. If it is going to be "a runner", then it'll be a new Kickstarter project.

    More wait and see, but I'm getting used to it.
     
  8. kypros

    kypros Guru

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    Let's see how the thing shaves first and then worry about getting the SS version.
     
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  9. I signed up for stainless steel , seems like a carrot on a stick to me , getting a little tetchy now , it's a long time for someone to have hold of my dosh with no sign of a conclusion
     
  10. Conservator

    Conservator Veteran

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    It is amazing that so many shavers give Rockwell an interest-free loan to produce razors. I just went to Indiegogo and saw that Rockwell raised more than seven times what they needed to produce the razor! As of May 12, 2016 they were 787% funded.
     
  11. bazemk1979

    bazemk1979 Veteran

    after yesterday update that claimed the SS cant be made as of now I asked for refund and got it. Too much inconsistency with this razor, started out as all brass, then changed to brass/zinc,SS combo and possibility for SS. Here we are after so long waiting period $90 for a brass/zamac,SS razor? no thanks.
     
  12. Batch300

    Batch300 Extraordinarily Uncomplicated

    My biggest shaving regret is not buying the Rockwell 6s at $79. My next biggest regrets may include pre-ordering a really shiny chrome plated Rockwell razor at $79.

    Did I miss the portion of the update that discussed the excellent shaving capabilities of the razor - I did notice the excellent & lifetime chrome plating. I also noticed the close tolerances and mfg process required - which starts to raise concerns in everyday use. Offshore mfg may be hurting Rockwell.

    @bazemk1979 - how does someone ask for a refund?
     
  13. Yes , I think I am going to ask for a refund , even shelled out for a stand when they said production was imminent several months ago
     
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  14. MrK1

    MrK1 Forum GOD!

    I'm going for a refund as well.

    Will put the money towards getting a recently acquired birth year and quarter Black Beauty replated.

    Just need to decide if I keep the Parker Variant as well.
     
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  15. Batch300

    Batch300 Extraordinarily Uncomplicated

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