Haircut & Shave Co. P076 OC 17-4 SS Razor

I used the 17-4 for about a week's worth of daily shaves. 2 passes one WTG followed by ATG. I mostly used the SB since I don't really have a need for open combs. Before I get into the shave, I've seen several razors being compared to Wolfman's mirror polish, but once I got a hold of them, I could see polishing streaks. On some razors like the DB (Paradigm Diamondback) it's very hard to see, but they are there. The 17-4 is the only razor I've come across that is truly polished at the level of WM's mirror polish, at least the top cap was, not the rest of the razor. However, Dan told me that the final production razor has an improved polish, so I suspect the entire production model razor is polished to WM's level.

The shave itself was great. There's definitely some blade feel, similar to the original Carbon plate (haven't used the newer ones yet), but the razor is very smooth. I kept getting nicks after several days with the Cx, but not was not my experience with the 17-4. I couldn't help but compare the 17-4 to the DB. During use, the DB FEELS smoother due to it's lack of blade feel, but once the shave was over, the end result was the same. Both razors gave me nick/irritation free shaves consistently. You can't ask for more smoothness than that out of a razor. So while the journey felt different, the destination (in terms of smoothness) was equal on both razors.

Things were a little odd on the efficiency end. The 17-4 FELT more efficient while in use (due to it's greater blade feel), but after 12+ hours of growth I would give the DB a slight nod over the 17-4.

I think both the DB and 17-4 appeal to different crowds and both are great choices. If you like the original Cx but want greater smoothness and efficiency, I think the 17-4 is a great choice! If you prefer little to no blade feel, then the DB is probably better suited for you. If you're like me and don't really discriminate, then both razors are worthy of buying.

I also couldn't help but notice the similarity of the 17-4's base plate to the Cx's. They both have ultra thin base plates. I'd love to see how the 17-4 compares to the new +/++ Carbon plates.

I didn't find the OC as smooth, but I only used it once and didn't give it a fair chance since I knew I wouldn't be buying it anyways. The production model OC does have wider teeth, so I suspect it'll be smoother than prototype in this pass around.

In summary, I got nothing but consistently perfect shaves with the 17-4 and can recommend it to those who don't mind some blade feel. $300 for a truly mirror polished, 17-4 stainless razor that shaves this well is beyond reasonable in my opinion. This razor could easily have been listed at more than that.
 
Nice review! How is the balance of the razor, do you find the razor head to be a little light? and does this affect the shave? Most DEs in SS have a head weight of between 28-34 grams, this one has a head weight of 22 grams.
Thanks!
You know, I'm acutally NOT a fan of ultra thin base plates due to their light weight, however I had no issues at all with the 17-4. I think the heavy handle helped out a lot.
 

Keto

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Thanks!
You know, I'm acutally NOT a fan of ultra thin base plates due to their light weight, however I had no issues at all with the 17-4. I think the heavy handle helped out a lot.
I'm curious about this razor. I'm wondering what other razors the efficiency is like, as I don't have the Carbon or DB ?
 

koenfucius

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Same here. I had the original H&S but sold it as I wanted a tad more efficient. How does it compare to that one or e.g. a blackland blackbird? Thanks
 
I'm curious about this razor. I'm wondering what other razors the efficiency is like, as I don't have the Carbon or DB ?
Same here. I had the original H&S but sold it as I wanted a tad more efficient. How does it compare to that one or e.g. a blackland blackbird? Thanks
Efficiency is probably close to a 1.25 WR2, but not more than that.
Much smoother than the blackbird but a tad less efficient. If you want something a little more efficient than the N75, I think this is worth trying.
 
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