Family history DNA results

Discussion in 'Recreation, Hobbies & Interests' started by JamieM, Aug 17, 2018.

  1. JamieM

    JamieM Forum GOD!

    Recieved my DNA Ethnicity results today, anyone else out there with an interest.

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  2. ajc347

    ajc347 Forum GOD!

    I share the same interest Jamie and have tested at a number of different companies.

    It's been a fascinating journey to discover some of my ancestral routes and there are a host of different resources out there to help with further discovery.

    Are you planning to submit your Ancestry raw data to any other sites for further analysis?

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  3. JamieM

    JamieM Forum GOD!

    I have made my results public on the Ancestry site, plus I have a small family tree on my Fathers side, I hope to pursue it further.
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  4. N_Architect

    N_Architect Travel, See, Feel, Explore

    Very interesting. Did not know this exists. Thanks for sharing.
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  5. Fox

    Fox The Soap Artisan

    I should do this, as I have been told on a few occasions that my eyes look a bit Chinese. Isn't that right @Mr Bigmem :whistling:

    I'm going to do this, just to see if I should be including more rice in my diet.

    So what is the best one to use? There are so many, I would like the most detailed result I can get.

    This is going to be interesting. :happy:
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  6. JamieM

    JamieM Forum GOD! have the worlds lagest DNA database, speaking from my own personal experience it was a smooth process took around 6 weeks from posting.
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  7. Mr Bigmem

    Mr Bigmem Forum GOD!

    North London
    Bet your part mongolian lol
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  8. ajc347

    ajc347 Forum GOD!

    It depends how deep your pockets are ...

    The two basic tests I'd recommend are Ancestry DNA and Living DNA.

    Living DNA gives a more detailed UK and Ireland based ancestry result whereas Ancestry DNA gives a better wider picture and is good if you are looking for matches with a paper-based family tree. Living DNA will give you a maternal and paternal Haplogroup (maternal only for females) whereas Ancestry DNA will not. Living DNA are introducing a new matching service and are currently accepting free transfers of Ancestry DNA raw data. Ancestry DNA have by far the largest database (which is good if you're interested on matches) and also have a sale on at the moment (you will need to be a member of their subscription service and have a linked tree to get all of the benefits of this test). Both sets of results can also be uploaded to sites that specialise in health-based reports (such as Promethease).

    Both Living DNA and Ancestry DNA raw data can be uploaded to other sites either for free (such as Gedmatch) or at cost (such as DNA Tribes) for alternative analysis. There are also a number of reports that can be ordered (very cheaply) from a few individuals who specialise in analysing your DNA against publicly available samples. These guys have a very good reputation for the work they do.

    There are a few more tests available:

    Family Tree DNA (FTDNA): This is good if you want to go deeper into matching with relatives around the globe and can give some very accurate maternal and paternal DNA Haplogroups. It isn't cheap though and this level of detail will cost several hundreds of pounds. Ancestry DNA raw data can be uploaded to this site for free and a basic analysis of this can be had for a small price. You will need to do a separate test with FTDNA if you want to purchase any more detailed tests though.

    23andMe: Pretty basic Haplogroup analysis (the tree they use is somewhat out-of-date). The ancestry report is generally pretty good (and can be improved if you have a close relative who has also tested there). 23andMe will also provide health-related results at a cost.

    My Heritage: The ancestry results are, in my experience, not as accurate as they could be and there is a membership cost attached if you want top link your DNA to a sizeable family tree (i.e. over 250 people). They will accept raw DNA data from Ancestry DNA, FTDNa and 23andMe for free and also provide a DNA testing service from scratch (using FTDNA's laboratory). The price for this is very reasonable, however, the last I read was that you need to have a membership subscription to get the full functionality of this test.

    24 Genetics: The ancestry results are okay, but they are missing a number of samples to compare your DNA against (especially in the case of some parts of Ireland). This should improve in the future as more samples become available. They also offer health-related results. They offer a DNA testing process from scratch and theiir prices are currently more expensive than some of the other companies at the current time.

    Gene Plaza: Great site and the ability to upload Ancestry data is useful. They also provide a DNA testing service from scratch and their prices are more expensive than some of their competitors.

    DNA Land: Very basic results. They offer free raw data uploads from Ancestry DNA, FTDNA, 23andMe and My Heritage.

    GPS Origins: Very basic results with some very strange conclusions. They also offer a DNA testing service from scratch. Again, the price for this seems quite high. I would not recommend this test.

    Full Genomes Corporation (FGC): This company specialises in male DNA and whole genome DNA analysis and currently produce the deepest results available on the market. They are not cheap though. Expect to pay anywhere from a several hundred pounds to a couple of thousand pounds if you want the best cutting edge results.

    YSEQ: This company offers advanced testing which is similar to some of the specialist tests offered by FTDNA and FGC. They are useful if you want a cheap means of digging deeper into a basic paternal Haplogroup provided by Living DNA or 23and Me.

    The information above is based upon my own use of these services (either in part or in full) and like everything else YMMV applies to DNA analysis as much as it does to shaving. :)
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  9. Fox

    Fox The Soap Artisan

    I have feelings you know. The problem now is what part of me has the feelings! :roflmao:

    Yes they have the largest Autosomal DNA testing, which will go back about 6 generations acutely. I have read that there is 3 types of testing; autosomal (atDNA) testing, mitochondrial (mtDNA) and Y-chromosome (Y-DNA) testing.

    This is what I have just read;

    Which Type of DNA Testing is the Most Accurate?

    Both mtDNA testing and Y-DNA testing are more accurate than autosomal tests if you want to learn about distant ancestors. Because autosomal tests reveal such a variety of genetic activity from every branch of your family tree, they are less accurate across multiple generations. Although anyone with whom you share genetic material is related to you somehow, atDNA tests aren’t recommended beyond six generations at the most.

    In contrast, mitochondrial tests and Y-chromosome tests can be extremely accurate across dozens of generations. It’s like the difference between shining a narrow beam of light instead of allowing that same light to shine across a wider area. A narrow beam of light will stretch further into the distance, but a wider beam will light up more ground around you.

    Scientists have traced mitochondrial DNA all the way back to a woman referred to as ‘mitochondrial Eve,’ who is believed to have lived around 200,000 years ago, which shows the accuracy of mtDNA tests. ‘Eve’ is the most recent common female ancestor for everyone alive today.

    That means that every human being on the planet shares the DNA of this single woman, not that she was the first human woman, ever. She was just the most recent woman whose female line continued unbroken until today.

    Similarly, scientists were able to use Y-DNA tests to identify ‘chromosomal Adam’ as the most recent common male ancestor of all humanity (but again, not the first human man). Scientists have placed him as having lived around 100,000 years ago, which isn’t at the same time as mitochondrial Eve, but they do have theories to explain that, including the frequency of polygamy.


    That all said and after seeing the prices I think I only need to go back 6 generations, it's £40 cheaper than the competition. So it is then. :D
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  10. Boru62

    Boru62 Shaving Boar

    Do you have any Irish ancestry?
    The epicanthic fold is found in Europeans but more commonly in Ireland.
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  11. Fox

    Fox The Soap Artisan

    @ajc347 thank you for taking the time to post all of the info. It's most interesting and now I am torn between Living DNA and Ancestry DNA. I do like the idea of uploading results to Gedmatch, and running the info through all the different algorithms, just for personal amusement.

    @Boru62 Not to my knowledge, my Mother did do a family tree that went back about four generations along my Mothers side. There was German and Scottish. Unfortunately I have no info for my Dad's side.

    I told Mem and other people what I was told by Mother, and that was I was born with Jaundice that effected my eyes. How it effected them I don't know, I was never interested enough to press for more info. I have done a little research and if I was born with jaundice then I was lucky as most babies who have it within 24 hours can suffer brain damage and a host of other complications.
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  12. Boru62

    Boru62 Shaving Boar

    @Fox, as far as I know jaundice won't change the shape of your eyes.
    Here's some info on the epicanthic fold.
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  13. ajc347

    ajc347 Forum GOD!

    If you're able to stretch to it Darron, I'd suggest doing both. They're both on sale at the moment and the results they give can help widen the picture (especially the Haplogroup info and UK regional breakdown offered by Living DNA).

    They use a slightly different chip (with Living DNA's being the newer chip) and will give differing results on the Gedmatch calculators (with the Ancestry results generally being considered to be more accurate, although FTDNA's data is generally considered to be slightly better again).

    FTDNA also have sale on at the moment and they're still currently using an older chip which tests for slightly more aDNA markers than the Ancestry and Living DNA tests (this is especially useful in the case of the Gedmatch calculators, and the raw data still has a pretty good portability factor). The basic results offered by their site are not the best for northwest europeans though.
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  14. Fox

    Fox The Soap Artisan

    Thank you, it's what I thought but never could find any information to back it up either way.

    I will take a look at this now and see if I can compare.

    @ajc347 if only I had hang fire for a couple of minutes, I just bought the Ancestry DNA. I will consider doing the others in the future. I can only find a US website and prices for Family Tree is this right?

    I will post the results back here once I get them.

    It's all exciting stuff, knowing my luck it will probably come back as a parking ticket or that I am 45% dachshund. :giggle:
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  15. Fox

    Fox The Soap Artisan

    "The epicanthic fold is the skin fold of the upper eyelid, covering the inner corner (medial canthus) of the eye."

    Mine does not do this I have narrow slanted eyes where the skin fold covers most of the upper eyelid but not the inner corner.That is an interesting read as I did see myself in a school play video when I was about 14 and thought that I looked Down syndrome, they mention it. I really didn't like seeing myself in that video.

    Ahah! This is more likely the case, my mother was an alcoholic for all of my childhood and was probably drinking before that. This linked off of the page you sent Boru62.

    Shame I think it would be cool to discover that I do have Asian in my line.
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